Jivana Heyman 0:05
Hello and welcome. This is the yoga Revolution podcast. My name is Jivana Heyman, my pronouns are he and him. This podcast is an exploration of how we can live yoga right now, and how we can apply the yoga teachings in our lives. We'll discuss the intersection of yoga and social justice, as well as how to build a practice that supports our activism. All my guests are contributors to my new book, yoga revolution, building a practice of courage and compassion. Thanks so much for joining me. Let's get started.
Hi, everyone. Thanks so much for joining me again for this episode of the radio Revolution Podcast. I'm so excited to be here today with Adrian Molina. Hi, Adrian. Hey, Jivana How are you? Good. Good. I let me introduce you first. So, Adrian Molina has been teaching yoga since 2004, with an extensive worldwide following through his platform and school of yoga, or your flow. Adrian is also a writer, meditation teacher, sound therapist, end of life doula Mental Health First Aid facilitator, Ambassador for Accessible Yoga and yoga for all and a TCTSY facilitator. Adrian is recognized as a community organizer and founder of the Warrior Flow Foundation, a nonprofit that brings the benefits of movement, therapeutic and Accessible Yoga, mindfulness and stress reduction to schools, shelters, hospitals, police, first responders and hospice care. He's also the co founder of Warrior Flow tv, an online video platform that makes fitness and yoga accessible to anyone anywhere, any time. And I'll put a link in for your website in the show notes. Anyway, how was that?
Adrian Molina 2:06
That's a lot.
Jivana Heyman 2:08
You're very busy. You're a busy person.
Adrian Molina 2:11
Yeah, it looks like
Jivana Heyman 2:14
Thank you. Thanks for talking with me today and also for contributing to the book, yoga revolution. I, I've been starting these conversations by asking each contributor to read their contribution. So I wonder if you could do that for us.
Adrian Molina 2:29
I would love to. Okay. After teaching commercial yoga for many years, my heart pulled me in a different direction. I went through some difficult chapters in my personal life. But the practice stood next to me. Reflecting back, I learned different ways to relate to the practice of yoga, and different ways to share the teachings. I longed to share the practice in unconventional places, with underserved audiences, homeless shelters, hospitals, police and fire stations and more. I wanted the practice to bring hope to those who felt forgotten, because I had been there once. I never thought the practice of yoga will become my doorway into social justice. These days, I cannot see one without the other.
Jivana Heyman 3:19
So awesome. Thank you. And we have a really great picture of you. You're you're teaching and talking into a mic in the class. Yeah. Anyway, that
Adrian Molina 3:29
is that picture. It's funny, because that's my first community class when I decided that I wanted to work outside of the yoga studios. And so I reached out to the city of Miami, and they is in Miami Beach, Florida. And so that was still is one of the classes that I teach every Sunday, it's in the middle of linker Road, for those unfamiliar is our pedestrian mall. And we do that that community class every Sunday in Miami, right in Miami, South Beach,
Jivana Heyman 4:03
South Beach. So there's something you said in here that really touched me and I just wondered if you'd be willing to share more about it. I don't know if it's too personal. But in that quote, you say you wanted the practice to bring hope to those who felt forgotten because I had been there once. Hmm. What do you mean by that you felt you've been forgotten. I might
Adrian Molina 4:25
start crying. But it's funny that you mentioned that part. Because I was just as I was reading that, I I felt that too. And it's basically everything that happens to me and my personal journey, after teaching yoga for many, many years. And starting to realize that as I was going through different chapters of my life, how the practice was helping me to go through Those situations but also particularly specific situations like losing my mom or being diagnosed with depression. But starting to see other people going through many difficult challenges, and either they didn't have the tools, the resources, the knowledge, the practice, like maybe you and I have, but with the same in the same in the same way, sometimes, even when I had the tools, the knowledge, the practice, the skills, those life experiences happen. And I didn't know how to implement them. Because Emotionally, I wasn't ready. And so in those situations I felt that I could have, I could have try or do things differently, to help others. So I find myself many times wishing or wanting to help others because I knew how to do it. But the thing myself, I wasn't ready. So that's that's one part of what I feel that I wrote that part. And then the discovery that for those who don't have the resources, once you close that fear of not being short, if you can help them, then the beauty of how much impact you can have in their lives. I don't know that kind of goes back into what I said there. But
Jivana Heyman 6:46
yeah, yeah, thanks for saying that. I mean, I, I'm really interested in that aspect of your work impact the I basically what I feel like you're talking about is how your personal experience of feeling. I don't know, struggling, made you realize that other people are struggling and don't have access to these practices, or know how to know how to use them. And so you want to it motivated you to serve. So it's like your struggle, you turn it into service seems like,
Adrian Molina 7:20
and yes, 100% and also feel feeling inadequate myself, having all these years of learning and studying. And sometimes when I was going through difficult
chapters in my life. The practice was there. But it wasn't until I was able to put the practice in motion
by wanting to help others by feeling that inspiration and that call. Because when the practice really makes sense to me. And interesting enough, then the practice reflected back at me. There's this culture this at all, first self care, first take care of yourself, and then you can help all other, which I agree to some extent, but in my experience, it was the realization that what I knew, or what I've been practicing for so many years can make such a difference in some people's lives. That then that experience of connection, it reflected back at me bring in more of a sense of integration in my own life. I don't know if that makes sense.
Jivana Heyman 8:35
Totally. I think I had the same experience. I think that's how Accessible Yoga started. And all of my teaching, it's service is a very subtle and complex thing. It's, it's, it's two directions. You know, it's like people think, when you're offering service that it's like very generous, and you're just giving, giving, but there's so much back, you get so much. And not just gratitude, but a deeper understanding of yourself and of how to practice. So in the case of this where you're sharing yoga with populations that may not normally have access that have been, like disenfranchised, it also helps you understand the practice better. I think that's what you're saying. Yeah. In fact, well, I, this is what I feel, I always felt that about you. And that's why I put that your quote is actually in the section of the book on service. You know, which is the beginning of the second section of the book, where I really try to explain that and it's it's so hard. It's so hard to explain this topic, I find it seems like it's lost these days and yoga.
Adrian Molina 9:45
I was reflecting this morning. And I knew that you and I were going to get into an into a really good conversation but I was reflecting that in my yoga career or for the last almost 20 years that I've been practicing. You know, like, a lot of yoga practitioners that have 2025 30 years of practice, they perhaps starting connecting to yoga through a lineage or, you know, in a way that is more spiritual or connected to the roots of yoga in a way, I was basically, I started practicing yoga into yoga studio, within three months, I took a teacher training and right away, I was teaching in a corporate and the corporate of yoga. No. And that's, that's been one of my main employers for almost 15 years teaching at a fitness to do that, of course, has really nice yoga studios, but I was reflecting into the fact that my yoga practice which is rooted in and spirituality and service, all these years, happen into that environment. And how, after so many years, I felt the need that I needed to break free from that. Even though I knew it was bringing a lot of joy. And, and it was helping a lot of my students, but part of me it felt that I needed to take that step and go into the opposite direction into a deeper layer of the practice. Particularly what what I experienced my personal life. And these days, I don't see myself going back. And every other week, I have calls for studio owners, Hey, would you like to teach a class and like? You know, I feel alive, like Yes. So that was teaching at the police station. This is a fun, I mean, not sure if it's funny, but probably it's an interesting story to share with you. I show up to teach my one of my two classes, I teach at the police stations, I have a lot of detectives, administrative stuff from the police station, police officers that go out on the day and on bikes or the cars. And the place that we do our yoga class, it's not a typical yoga studio, it's just basically where they do all the tastes or trainings or self defense. And twice a week they do yoga. Nonetheless, yesterday, that studio wasn't available. So we ended up doing yoga right outside of the police station, where everyone walks in. Because stuff happens in the city of Miami Beach, close to the entertainment district. And still, we were practicing on the floor outside of the yoga studio, no mat or anything, lots of noise, lots of people screaming in the background. And these the tickets and the officers at the end of the practice the word relaxed, they were up even on the on the police station. And those are the moments that I live for. They're so appreciated, that makes me feel alive.
Jivana Heyman 13:15
Yeah, I know it to me, and I love. I love that I love the Well, I love bringing yoga into unusual places. I think that's all I've ever really done. I mean, I barely taught in studios. I mean, more recently, I have through trainings, but you know, always taught in hospitals and community centers. And there's always that challenge of this space, and also like the environment and having to be extra focused, because you're dealing with these constant distractions, but in a way, it can be helpful because it makes it it makes you work a little harder as a teacher and also for the students, they really have to like, turn their attention inward. Because there's so much going on outside, like I remember at the hospitals where I taught and we would have this one house, but I taught him for 15 years, they would always have the loudspeaker we couldn't turn it off. And it would say like, sometimes they would say Code Blue Code Blue, that means that someone's dying in the emergency room. It's like come to the emergency room Code Blue. And it's like, you know, you'd be lying in shavasana hearing code, blue code. And it just brings your awareness to well, humanity and connection and death. I mean, these topics are real. And I'm sure in the police station, it's similar. It's like real life happens there.
Adrian Molina 14:32
Also, I don't know if it's on the softer side, but on the more personal side, I like to have the the contrast. I think that you really want to experience the practice and the teaching. You had to experience that contrast that you not you cannot always rely into the yoga studio concept or yoga. Sometimes it's been and portray, it's interesting. And it's helpful to experience the other aspect, which is teaching yoga in places that you wouldn't imagine you're happening for people that it will never imagine that they will do a yoga class. And then here's a yoga class in the hospital, here's the yoga class in the homeless shelter, for example, in the homeless shelter last week. I go once a week to one of the shelters, and I get a group of 20 to 30 participants. And let's put it this way, all these classes, they're mandatory. So none of them are in there by choice. So that's the first thing that I know I'm walking into a room where if they want to get whatever perks or benefits from having perfect attendance, they had to take my class for the love or hate the class for myself or anything. So I was teaching a class.
Jivana Heyman 15:57
They're just say, That's so hard. It is mandatory. That's the worst. Yeah,
Adrian Molina 16:03
and so imagining, and, and so I'm very aware of where I'm walking in. And so the first thing that I tell him, I said, Thank you for taking the class. And I know that you might not be here by choice. And so I present myself just the way I am. And I tell him, let's try to the best we can. And so last week, I think I was teaching the class and at the end, you know, I've been doing this class for a couple of years now. So there's always the same group, the changes over six months, and a couple of them came at the end. And they told me, this is the best thing that happens in our program every week to really look forward to that. And I was just saying to myself, Wow, you don't have a home, you don't have a car, you don't have anything, you're going probably one of the most difficult situations in your life, which is always a check a weekly check in for me just to appreciate where I am in my life, and to be of service. And they gave themselves fully, wholeheartedly to the experience. And seeing them retain relax at the end of the practice being more open knowing everything that they're going through. I don't know that, that that class happens every Wednesday. And I think that when I'm getting to the middle of the week, then I started to feel overwhelmed sometimes. That's the perfect reality check. For me.
Jivana Heyman 17:27
That's awesome. That's beautiful. I mean, I just, I, I wonder if you have any ideas or like tips for people who might be interested in doing that work? You know, teachers who might be interested in sharing yoga at a homeless shelter or other kind of unusual places or underserved audiences, as you mentioned.
Adrian Molina 17:52
Yeah, I think the first thing will be just to take the Accessible Yoga online training. Thanks. Because that opens up now seriously? Yeah. I mean, seriously, it will be. I'll be lying if I say that. After you're done with your 200 hour yoga teacher training, you can go and teach to homeless prisons, or shelters or or police is not happening. The populations that you get in all these organizations and all these places is, for the most part, people that have never done done before. And so having a background of the world of possibilities that the human body percent, in terms of movement is very helpful. So definitely just take a training such as the one that you offer, and then get resourceful done. Don't wait for someone to do something for you just go and knock on the door and say, hey, I want to teach yoga. And, and some of these places might have never had the yoga before. A lot of the places that I'm offering classes I didn't have yoga before until I went and I I explained why they needed to have a yoga class. Why What surprises me or amazes me sometimes it's the how far we are from the reality that happens in homeless shelters, hospitals, we live our lives going from home to work. And we all know that there are homeless shelters. We all know that there are hospitals in our area. But somehow, in my experience, I'm just talking first person. I used to think that all of those places are so far out or it will be so difficult for me to get into those places because certain people do that kind of work. And then at the same time I was feeling cold I want to do that for. And so once I face the fear of feeling that I will soon enough, and the knowledge that I had over the years, it wasn't enough, once I realized, I mean, I'm good enough, I can do this, I have to do this, if I don't do it, nobody else will do it. Then you can knock on this place as you can have conversations. And more often than not, you'll realize that they're very open minded to it. And they need help. This is the interesting thing, they need help.
Jivana Heyman 20:38
That's useful. And I'm curious about how you care for yourself. Like, it seems that I don't know, certain people I know who do a lot of service. They tend to really push themselves hard. And they just, you know, constantly giving and serving all the time. And you seem like somebody like that, that you're constantly finding new ways to share and
teach. And I just wondered if you have...How was that for you? I mean, is it challenging?
Adrian Molina 21:13
To say the least. It is very challenging. And I think it's the what I'm coming to see as the next natural progression of the practice, in my personal life, realizing that, okay, I wanted to be a health, I wanted this to be a practice that is not only for my own benefit, but the benefits of others. I've done that I'm doing that every day. I'm lucky that I get to go every week to different places such as police, shelters, hospitals. And now the practice once again, is reflecting back at me and saying, okay, you've done that. And now it's time to prioritize yourself, to take care of yourself. Which for the first time I am understanding it, after doing all the work that we were just talking about. I'm seeing that self care. Or finally, I'm understanding that that idea of self care is I'm understanding the magnitude and the importance of it before I didn't know, for me before it was I didn't have time for it. It was unnecessary. But I think if I haven't done the work of helping others and realizing how much the practice has, have improved their lives, I wouldn't understand that I had to do the work myself. I mean, that's my personal experience. Now I am more aware of the need of the practice the silence, the journaling, the more aware of the need of doing less. Hold on doing a lot. But I'm more aware of it. Instead of go go go go go all the time.
Jivana Heyman 23:14
Yeah. You know, it's, it's funny, because I, I think I'm a lot like you and and it's very hard to find the balance, you know, because I, I know for myself, I get a lot out of service, like I like to be active, it keeps my mind occupied, and that sometimes my mind isn't occupied with focusing on service and teaching or something, then I go into, you know, I deal with a lot of anxiety. And so my mind gets all caught up in issues. So I actually find it's the work, it's the teaching that can be a kind of self care for me, but I also know that fenders physically, it can be training. So I don't know, to me, it's not so simple. Like, it's not like self care is this easy thing just as you know, go rest and you're done. Like it's way more complex because it changes each day, sometimes what I need to do is actually go be active and go teach or, you know, go on a bike ride or spend hours in my garden. But sometimes I just need to work and work and work and that's what I that's what I need.
Adrian Molina 24:25
I I agree and and I know that this is a word that is popular these days in our vocabulary, but kind of have a rejected a little bit self care because sometimes it's like, oh, let me get a manicure or pedicure or massage or let me go to a spa which is totally fine. I love doing this thing. But we're talking I guess you and I were talking about is like nourishing yourself within the context of the practice and just nourishing yourself so you can be up and ready For whatever is next in your life and your Self Realization and your evolution as a human being, and how you see the world and the impact that you want to make in the world, if that's what you desire to do it. Yeah, I think we're putting ourselves in that place that we know that there is work to be done. And it's important that we're doing it. But at the same time, it's important to realize that we're not the only ones who are doing the work. And whenever we feel that we need to go back, or take a step back. It's important to take that step back or two or three. Yeah, the work and wait. Yes, that's the hard lesson for me at least.
Jivana Heyman 25:53
Yes. So we're replaceable, I think, I think that's important to remember is that are replaceable, and that that, to me, it gets to the heart of what service or Karma yoga really is, which is that it's actually it is a yoga practice. So it's yoga in that service helps us to see where our ego is attached, and where we're stuck, because those are the places that were actually suffering. And, you know, according to yoga philosophy, it's, it's through, you know, quieting the mind and getting the ego I don't want to say under control, but maybe in check seeing it more clearly, that we can have peace, right? So. So actually, true service is self care to me, like it actually gives me energy. Like you mentioned, in your teaching, like were the your class at the police station, it seemed like it gave you energy, the way you talked about it, like it made you feel good, in the middle of your week, which is interesting, right? Because many people think, oh, yoga teaching is work, and then I'm tired afterwards. But it seems like if we can really approach to anything as service, it can, it can actually support us and lift us up.
Adrian Molina 27:09
I think I mean, my experience, there's nothing more rewarding. In the spectrum of experiences, as a human being. There's nothing more rewarding than knowing that. What I do, what I'm passionate about, when it's shared with others, empowers them. And when they get empowered, that empowers myself. Yeah, knowing that when I feel anxiety, I do my work, my service, that anxiety goes away. Now when I feel depressed, and I might be wondering if I'm going through a wave of depression of if I'm taking enough care of myself, I go and teach and share and I gave myself completely to the experience of sharing without any expectation, then I feel joyful. So for me, yes, I agree with you self care, and service are the same. They're the same thing. And as long as you're able to balance, the quantity and the amount that you're giving yourself, and you're not giving yourself as an excuse not to look at your own personal experience, or let's put it this way, if you're doing so many hours of service, and then you don't have a roof over your head or you're not taking care of your relationships or basic things that will be a red flag that the service that you've done. That pays you back immediately, as it's happening. That I think is one of the the the sweetest fruits of the practice. For me, the practice has given me gifts from the moment that I became a teacher, whether I'm teaching in Manhattan in a fancy yoga studio, whether I'm in a retreat in Italy, the practice has been extremely generous. But each of us has different goals. And at this moment for me, the sweetest fruits are coming from service, which is not the only way. But for me, it's what resonates the most for this time.
Jivana Heyman 29:30
Yeah. And also, I sometimes think of self care is service to the body in mind. So like my body and mind are temporary for me for my spirit. There's a temporary vehicle I have here in this lifetime that's gonna go away, like I'm gonna die. But I have to care for I have to care for my body and mind and so I can find that balance, you know, act active so have us and then a more of an inward service, that that's what I try to explain in this chapter actually. So I'm grateful to you for talking about this with me, because that's, that's really the point I tried to get to in this section of the book is trying to understand how we can bring service into our teaching. I wonder, could you talk about what it's like to not serve? Like, do you ever do you ever know if you're willing to share, but like, what is it like when you're not in that headspace? Like when you're not feeling serviceable? Is that a fair question?
Adrian Molina 30:31
Yeah, that's pretty much I think, now being observed is, is completely the opposite of what we're talking about is, in my experience, again, each of us will experience this in different ways. But when I'm not in service, I am extremely self centered. Everything becomes too overwhelming. Because I'm too caught up in survival. Like, if by worrying too much about survival, will make it any easier. We all go through our challenges. And as you mentioned, ultimately, and you know, we all have our our time here. But I found that when I'm doing all these classes, and connecting to people from so many different paths, but what ends up happening is that the load on my shoulders of being human and trying to be normal, or functional, as society wants us to be, that burden kind of eases a little bit because you're connecting to people at a human level. Where it doesn't matter if you have a lot of money in the bank, doesn't matter if you have a job doesn't matter if you have a roof over your head, doesn't matter if you're young, doesn't matter. If you're about to die within the next 24 hours. We look at each other for what we are. And in those moments, there's no longer time. There's no longer space. There's no longer ego. So those moments are transformational.
Jivana Heyman 32:23
Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. That was very helpful. Beautifully. Yeah, and I just, I love this conversation, I feel like it, it can get very complex, but I think we really, I feel like you explained it very simply. And, actually, I want to go back to your quote, because I think in the book, you did the same thing. You said it very, very clearly there. You talk about you talk about your service. And you also talk about social justice. I wonder if you want to say anything about that you're talking about yoga became your social your doorway into social justice. And these days, I can see one without the other.
Adrian Molina 33:08
It's very difficult for me and I, I like to go back to real examples in my life, because I can we can get very theoretical about everything and social justice particularly. But I experienced that. Every day, when I go to the shelters, it's impossible for me to go and teach a class of the homeless shelter and not become interested in what's happening on my city in terms of legislation. It's impossible for me not to want to get involved as the citizen and what is it that it's been done to take better care of the homeless population? It's difficult for me not to go too hard. I mean, going to a hospice and now wondering, Okay, what about all the people who might be going through difficult situations, and they might have families or themselves going through this final stage in human life, and not knowing what the resources are. So for me, yoga took me to these amazing places to teach. And those the the connection to organizations, the connection to police station, the connection to prisons. In return, he gave me a larger perspective as a citizen, in the same way that in the world of yoga, we can easily see ourselves as part of a hole and we can see ourselves as divinity. But even before we do that, at a basic level, we need to see ourselves as citizens in our communities. And so doing this type of work for me makes me more aware of what's happening. In my city, for example, recently I became through our nonprofit, we became part of a chamber of commerce which to have access to, to those who are in charge and be able to offer more programs and grow gradually becoming more and more interested in and the politics of it, because let's put it this way, there's a lot of interest, there's always money, and all the important decision making. And sometimes, all these decisions are not being taken in consideration of these populations in this population, many times they don't have anyone to speak to them. So the more knowledgeable that I become a citizen, the more I can have an impact with my for the people that follow me with the people that are interested in the work that I do, the more knowledgeable I become, and the more I can represent them. And whenever I can speak for them, I just wrote it last night. And a basic thing as voting. And choosing to donate a penny out of taxes for the homeless as that was, was one of the things that were voting yesterday in the city of Miami. It makes me feel good, because when I go to the homeless shelter, I know there will be more funding for that. Yeah. So yeah, I think that service and social justice and yoga, ultimately, I would like to use those words interchangeably.
Jivana Heyman 36:44
I love that I love how you explain that. Thank you. I love that idea of just, you know, politics is, in a way you can think of politics is just part of the way humans come together. You know, it's like we come we talk about community a lot in yoga, like that word seems to be acceptable. But when you go to use a politics somehow, it's like a red flag. Oh, wait, yoga is political, what. But it's like, actually, politics is just like the guidelines. And the rules are recreate in terms of how we run our community, like a lot on the larger level, and how we elect representatives of that community. And so to me, that's not separate from our interactions with each other, our relationships with each other. And to me, that's what yoga is about. It's not just an inner practice, it's about it starts inside with my inner work, and then it affects the way I live in the world and the way I relate to other people. And that would therefore include politics, right? Because that includes so the guiding forces for our lives together. Yeah.
Adrian Molina 37:44
And a lot of the issues that we're facing these days, as we all know, they're based on this structure that we assume this is the reality that we live on. And a lot of assumptions are being made, a lot of systems are being put in place. And
Jivana Heyman 38:00
at times, it's very easy to fall in the trap of feeling that we don't have a say we don't have an impact in those decisions. And the reality is that we do we have a voice? We do. We can choose to use it or not. Exactly, yeah. Maybe we don't want to speak. We don't want to focus energy in there. And that way, that's our choice. But you're right. I know, I don't know if you know, Reggie Hubbard, he gave a keynote address at the closing of the Accessible Yoga conference. And it's so interesting, because he's a new yoga teacher, brand new, like a year, but he worked for he like helped to run Move On, you know, that organization and focused on
addressing all the damage that Trump was doing during those four years. And to me, it's so interesting to listen to him and so many others. I think that there's a history in civil rights in particular, of yoga and politics flowing together. If you look at, you know, tick, not Han. Well, going back to Gandhi, even Gandhi and Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King, Thich Nhat Hanh, they all talk about those connections between spiritual practice and life. You know, there's no there's no separation between our spiritual practice and our
Alright, alright, the way we live in the world. Yeah.
Adrian Molina 39:19
Anyway, the practice was, yeah, practices are when we use that expression, that was all we can to this life without a manual. And I hear that like, I wish I had a book of how to live my life or I think the practice that that's exactly what it is, which is the manual of instruction. So how to move in the world. How to how to use the vehicle of your body in the best possible way.
Jivana Heyman 39:50
Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. So Adrian, thank you. Anything else you want to share with us? I don't want to take
Adrian Molina 39:57
I just want to share How enriching it is always to connect with you how proud I feel being your friend, and how much you encouraged me whether you know it or not to make a lot of the decisions that I make in my, for the last couple of years. And I like to acknowledge all the teachers who might be getting into the field of yoga might be wondering what to do, or I don't feel that I belong to these or it's not easy. I would like to share that when I was feeling that myself and I have a lot of doubts, you were one of those few people who reminded me that amidst all the distractions that I can see in the yoga world, there's people like you who are doing the work day by day inspiring others. And to never feel that
there is no that we have done enough, there's never that feeling, there's so much more than needs to be done. You don't have to travel, you don't have to get a lot of education besides the Accessible Yoga Training.
It doesn't take that long to make a difference and feel that it practices are being put into use. So we need to do it.
Jivana Heyman 41:25
I appreciate that. Yeah, there's there's always work to do. And all of this work really starts at home, you know, we can start with us and then with our family and our friends, our community, and then the larger community. So thanks, I appreciate you saying that. So thanks for this. Thanks for sharing your wisdom with us today. And, you know, we'll put links in the show notes for you so people can follow you and take classes with you. And stay up to date. Alright, thanks, Adrian,
Adrian Molina 41:53
did you take care? Okay. All right, bye.
Unknown Speaker 42:01
Thanks so much for listening and joining the conversation. yoga is truly a revolutionary practice. Thanks for being here. If you haven't already, I would love for you to read my book, yoga revolution, building a practice of courage and compassion. It's available wherever books are sold. Also, you can check out my website JivanaHeyman.com. There's some free classes on there and a meditation and you can find out more about my upcoming trainings and other programs. Hope to see you next time. Thanks. Bye
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